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#1 bLight

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 01:59 AM

A lot of people have been awaiting this beta.

As you can see from the list below, there are A LOT of changes which cover pretty much everything, new features, changes and improvements of current features and of course fixes.

You'll notice that that VMR9 Renderless mode doesn't support Direct3D exclusive mode yet (it works in windowed mode). A test version will be released later on.

Here is the change list since v4.10 beta 2:
* IMPORTANT! All VMR7/9 settings have changed.  If you have previously
   selected VMR7/9 as your video renderer, make sure to re-select.

 * IMPORTANT! Several key Microsoft features that involve the playback
   of WMV/WMA files have changed. It is required that you to re-install
   Windows Media Player 10.  Even if you already have it installed or
   are not planning to use it as a player (Windows Media Player contains
   component that effect playback of all other players).
   You need at least version "10.00.00.3802" installed.

 * New "White Wash" Pattern (Shift+"P").  White Wash is a mechanism that
   allows you to wash out the burn-in effect of Plasma Televisions.
   Prolonged use of Plasma televisions can sometime burn a signal onto
   the screen if left on for too long.  Popular examples of this is
   when watching a lot of the same TV Channel and having the Station's
   Logo burned into the screen.

   When enabling white-wash, a white bar will move very slowly across
   your screen (one pixel every 10 seconds) which over a few hours
   should wash away any of the burn-in effects.

 * New "Gradients" Pattern (Shift+"P").  Useful for seeing the color
   range of your display device.

 * New Customized Media Profiles for Nero Digital filters, including
   H264 playback (using nero file-reader with FFDShow as the decoder).

 * New Customized Media Profile for ".ms-dvr" files.  For it to work,
   you must download the MS-DVR patch from the Microsoft Windows Update
   web site.

 * New Setting (Advanced Options / DVD / DVD Setup / Customized)
   allowing you to specify the Video ColorSpace that the video
   renderer should try to connect at.  This should be a relatively
   safe option as Zoom Player will try to fall back to the default
   ColorSpace connection if the specified mode doesn't connect.

 * New Setting (Advanced Options / Aspect Ratio) allowing you to
   Enable/Disable support for Anamorphic Matroska files.  This is
   optional as when DirectVobSub (VSFilter) is enabled with the
   option to extend the video to a different aspect ratio, it
   will corrupt the aspect ratio on such files.

 * New Setting (Advanced Options / Settings / Interface) that controls
   whether the options dialog is forced to appear on the active monitor
   (default to on).  When disabled, the Options Dialog position is
   remembered across multiple monitors.

 * Zoom Player now supports CUE Chapter files (".cue" extension).
   The support is optional (Advanced Options / Settings / Playback)
   as doing file searches when opening files causes a slight slowdown
   (probably not noticeable, but it accumulates).

 * New Value (Advanced Options / DVD / DVD Tools) allowing you to
   automatically execute an external application/script when a
   PAL disc is identified.

 * New Value (Advanced Options / DVD / DVD Tools) allowing you to
   automatically execute an external application/script when an
   NTSC disc is identified.

 * New Value (Advanced Options / DVD / DVD Tools) allowing you to
   automatically execute an external application/script when a
   DVD is stopped.

 * New Value (Advanced Options / Values / Play List) allowing the
   Title extracted from Media Tags (ID3v1/ID3v2/APE Tag/WMA Tag/Etc...)
   to be used instead of the file name.  Media Tags are only extracted
   when a file is opened, Scanned by the "Get Media Duration" function
   on the Play List Right-Click context menu or Automatically scanned
   by specifying the file extension under:
   "Advanced Options / Values / Extensions -> Auto-Get Duration/Title".

 * New Value (Advanced Options / Values / Other) allowing you to
   specify a default file to open in the web navigator if no
   specific file exists for the currently opened Media/DVD.

 * New Functions (Alt+Shift+"+" and Alt+Shift+"-") allowing you to
   reposition the Subtitle vertical position in media files (when
   the DirectVobSub filter is used to display subtitles).

 * New Functions (Alt+Ctrl+"+" and Alt+Ctrl+"-") allowing you to
   resync Subtitles in media files (when the DirectVobSub filter
   is used to display subtitles).

 * New Function (Alt+Ctrl+"D") that pops an OSD with the current
   date and time.

 * New Function allowing you to open the directory of the currently
   highlighted file in the play list within Explorer.  This function
   is now accessible on the right-click Play List context menu.

 * New Extended Function "exEjectDrive" allowing you to Eject/Insert
   a specified removable drive.

 * New Extended Function "exEnableTCP" allowing you to enable the
   TCP/IP interface on a specific port.

 * New File Definition function allowing you to set the Audio
   Synchronization offset value.

 * New "zplayer.zdf" Definition function allowing you to automatically
   save the Audio Synchronization offset value.

 * Zoom Player now supports internet based playlists.  This should help
   some MMS streams which are linked to by an ASX file.

 * New "NoTintSource" Skin script command enabling you to exclude
   sections of the skin bitmap from being tinted by the skin selection
   dialog's tinting controls.

 * New "ToggleInterface" Skin script command that can be used to show
   or hide some of the Zoom Player user interfaces as the skin loads.

 * Extended the "PlayListData" Skinning script command to enable
   specifying the font used by the play list.  You can still override
   the font through the Advanced Options dialog.

   Furthermore, the "PlayListData" command now included extended
   documentation for additional functionality.

 * Extended the "DrawExText" Skinning script command to support all
   function modes previously only supported by "CreateExButton".

 * New "/CPR" command line parameter allowing you to set a color
   present.  For example:
   "c:\program files\zoom player\zplayer.exe" /CPR:2

 * New "/TCP:[port]" command line parameter which enables the
   Zoom Player TCP/IP interface.  Using just the "/TCP" parameter
   will enable the interface on the current port, using "/TCP:4096"
   will enable the interface on port 4096.

 + Using the Next/Previous Track function while in Fast Forward or
   Rewind will do a Time Seek (default 2 minutes).

 + Using the Next/Previous Chapter function while in Fast Forward or
   Rewind will do a Time Jump (default 20 seconds).

 + The Pattern Images (Shift+"P") now respect the current Aspect Ratio
   and the Pixel Aspect Ratio (Source Relative Stretch) which makes
   them better suited for manually aligning the Aspect Ratio.

 + The Windows Media settings have been moved under the Filter Control
   section of the Advanced Options Dialog.

 + When deleting items using the Navigator interfaces, the deleted
   item name will now appear as part of the confirmation dialog.

 + The Media Library navigator will now open to the location of the
   currently open file if the file resides anywhere within the media
   library paths (previously it would only open the root locations).

 + Expanded Communication Interface 
   (Messages 1501/1601/1602/1701/1702/1750/1751/1850/2400/2500/5010/
   5020/5030).

 + Communication messages 1600 and 1700 have changed.  They now
   give an audio/subtitle track index instead of the name (which
   is now delivered for all available streams in a new message).

 + Context Navigator now supports the Tab (Ascii #9) Character for use in
   right-alignment of text as used in the regular Context Menu.

 + Shoutcasted currently playing audio track will now be listed in the
   tray icon tool tip and on the application task bar (if the setting
   to show the currently playing file in the task bar is enabled).

 + You can now specify a Down Active bitmap using the CreateExButton
   Skin script function.

 + Any RGB value entered as part of the skin script can now contain
   an "NT" suffix to specify that the color shouldn't be tinted.
   For example:
   FillRect(4,4,<VidWidth>,<VidHeight>,000000NT)

 + The FillRectNT skin function has become obsolete as you can now
   specify which RGB values should not be tinted.

 + The "AddBarButton" skinning function has become obsolete.  It is now
   replaced with the CreateExButton with a target value of "CBar".  This
   allows access for a few more settings for the buttons.  There are some
   limitations, read the function documentation (within brownish.skn) for
   more information regarding the limitations.

 + The "DrawExText" skinning function can now show a hint label.

 + Using Next/Previous frame while playing will now pause the video
   (instead of doing nothing).

 + The Filter selector interface is now resizable.

 + The "Dock Play list to Main user interface" setting has been dropped
   as it has been replaced by the screen snapping feature.

 - Zoom Player "may" function again on Windows NT4, not fully tested.

 - Fixed a "Divide by Zero" problem with some decoders that returned
   invalid aspect ratio information.

 - While in Audio Mode, the Audio Bar will not be resized when a new
   file is loaded and Auto Set user interface to Source Resolution
   is enabled.

 - Fixed "List Index out of Bounds" error when trying to play Shoutcast
   streams that contained no actual audio streams.

 - Fixed a cosmetic navigator display issue where the width of unicode
   strings was not calculated properly.

 - Fixed a problem with the TimeLine seek position OSD could remain
   visible on screen.

 - Fixed a small memory leak when playing Shoutcasted streams.

 - Fixed a problem with WMA/APE tags containing unicode characters.

 - Fixed a problem with Zoom Player's Next/Previous Chapter commands
   not working properly with certain media files.

 - Fix for error "10054" in the TCP/IP communication interface.

 - Skinning for the Play List, Equalizer and OSD was broken in the
   previous beta.

 - Switching Audio Mode skins (or skin modes) would wrongly
   accept a skin width below the minimal skin width specified
   by the skin author.

 - The mouse wheel video positioning functions should now work regardless
   of what the keyboard arrow functions are set to.

 - When Remember Last Media Position and Stop closes media files are
   enabled, the last media position will be remembered properly.

 - Enabling/Disabling Button Hints on the Basic Options dialog wouldn't
   have had an effect until you restarted.

 - Couldn't toggle Button Hints for the Equalizer dialog.

 - Comm Message #1930 wasn't updating the play list properly.

Download v4.10 beta 3 here


Latest communication interface protocol:
When the SendMessage interface is used, the message number is returned
 on the "WParam" value and the message content is returned on the "LParam"
 value.  If the LParam contain a string, it is stored as an ATOM String.

 When the TCP interface is used, the message number is always returned/sent
 as a 4-digit code. The message content is seperated by a space character
 following the message number.  All content is string based and UTF-8
 encoded to preserve country specific text codes.

 When sending Zoom Player TCP commands, make sure to terminate each
 command with CRLF (Ascii #13#10)..

 The default TCP/IP port is 4769, but a user can change it under
 Advanced Options / Values / Interface.

 External Messages (ZP -> Program, TCP/IP or SendMessage):

 [WParam]                     | [LParam]
 -----------------------------+----------------------------------------------
 0000 - Application Name      | String describing the Application
 0001 - Application Version   | String with the version text
 1000 - State Change          | 0  - Closed
                                1  - Stopped (doesn't apply to DVD,
                                              DVD Stop = Closed)
                                2  - Paused
                                3  - Playing
 1100 - TimeLine update       | String containing timeline data
 1110 - Current Duration      | Current Duration in milliseconds
 1120 - Current Position      | Current Position in milliseconds
 1200 - OSD Message           | String containing the OSD message
 1201 - OSD Message Off       | No value, message just tells that the OSD
                                has disappeared
 1300 - Current Play Mode     | 0  - DVD Mode
                                1  - Media Mode
                                2  - Audio Mode
 1400 - DVD Title Change      | Current Title
 1401 - DVD Title Count       | Number of Titles
 1410 - DVD Domain Change     | See EC_DVD_DOMAIN_CHANGE in DirectX SDK
 1420 - DVD Menu Mode         | 0  - Not in a Menu
                              | 1  - In a Menu
 1450 - DVD Unique String     | Returns a unique DVD indentifer
 1500 - DVD Chapter Change    | Current Chapter
 1501 - DVD Chapter Count     | Number of Chapters
 1600 - DVD Audio Change      | Current Audio Track
 1601 - DVD Audio Count       | Number of Audio Tracks
 1602 - DVD Audio Name        | Contains the name of the Audio track and a
                                padded number for example "001 5.1 AC3"
 1700 - DVD Sub Change        | Current Subtitle Track
 1701 - DVD Sub Count         | Number of Subtitle Tracks
 1702 - DVD Audio Name        | Contains the name of the Subtitle track and a
                                padded number for example "001 5.1 AC3"
 1750 - DVD Angle Change      | Current Angle
 1751 - DVD Angle Count       | Number of Angles in the DVD Title 
 1800 - Currently Loaded File | String containing file name
 1810 - Current Play List     | String containing the Zoom Player Play List
                                structure.  Each entry is separated by the
                                ">" character.  Each entry is sub-divided
                                into additional information:
                                |N .. |n - Name
                                |E .. |e - Extension
                                |D .. |d - Date
                                |S .. |s - Size
                                |P .. |p - Path
                                |R .. |r - Duration
                                |F .. |f - Forced Duration
                                It is possible addtional tags will be used
                                in future version, so code safely.
 1855 - End of File           | End of file has been reached
 1900 - File PlayList Pos     | String containing file
                                position in play list
 2000 - Video Resolution      | String containing the
                                video resolution (if there is one)
 2100 - Video Frame Rate      | String containing the
                                video frame rate (if there is one)
 2200 - AR Change             | String containing the AR String
                                (same as OSD message)
 2210 - DVD AR Mode Change    | 0  - Unknown
                                1  - Full-Frame
                                2  - Letterbox
                                3  - Anamorphic
 2300 - Current Audio Volume  | The current Audio Volume
 2400 - Media Content Tags    | Returns Media Content Strings
                                (ID3/APE/WMA/Etc... Tags)
 2500 - A CD/DVD Was Inserted | Returns path to drive the disc was inserted to
 3000 - ZP Error Message      | String of error messsage
                                Note that there can be multiple errors
                                appearing in sequence, only the last
                                error may be visible by the user.
 3100 - Nav Dialog Opened     | A Navigator Dialog has opened
                                 0 - Blanking Navigator
                                 1 - Chapter Navigator
                                 2 - Context Navigator
                                 3 - File Navigator
                                 4 - GoTo Navigator
                                 5 - Media Library Navigator
                                 6 - MouseWheel Navigator
                                 7 - Color Control Navigator
                                 8 - Play List Navigator
                                 9 - Resize Navigator
                                10 - Station Navigator
                                11 - Web URL Navigator
 3110 - Nav Dialog Closed     | A Navigator Dialog has closed
                                (Values are the same as #3100)
 External Messages (Program -> ZP, TCP/IP only)
 Messages that contain parameters should be space seperated,
 for example: "5100 fnPlay"
 and a comma used to seperate multiple parameters,
 for example: "5110 exSetAR,1".

 0000 - Get Application Name  | Returns 0000 message
 0001 - Get Version           | Returns 0001 message
 1000 - Get Play State        | Returns 1000 message
 1110 - Get Current Duration  | Returns 1110 message
 1120 - Get Current Position  | Returns 1120 message
 1200 - Show a PopUp OSD Text | Parameter is a UTF8 encoded text to be
                                shown as a PopUp OSD
 1201 - Temp Disable PopUp OSD| Temporarily Disables the PopUp OSD
 1202 - Re-Enable PopUp OSD   | Re-Enables the PopUp OSD
 1300 - Get Play Mode         | Returns 1300 message
 1400 - Request DVD Title     : Returns 1400 message
 1420 - Request DVD Menu Mode | Returns 1420 message
 1500 - Request DVD Chapter   | Returns 1500 message
 1600 - Request DVD Audio     | Returns 1600 message
 1700 - Request DVD Subtitle  | Returns 1700 message
 1800 - Request File Name     | Returns 1800 message
 1810 - Request Play List     | Returns 1810 message
 1850 - Play File             | Play a Media File, Value is a UTF8 encoded
                                string containing the file name.
 1900 - Get Play List Index   | Returns 1900 message
 1910 - Set Play List Index   | Value from 0 to Number items in
                                the play list-1 (plays the file in index).
 1920 - Clear Play List       | Clears the Current Play List
                                (will close any playing file)
 1930 - Add Play List File    | Add a file to the Play List
 2200 - Request AR Mode       | Request the current ZP AR Mode
 2210 - Request DVD AR Mode   | Request the DVD AR Mode (see outgoing #2210)
 2300 - Request Audio Volume  | Request the Audio Volume Level
 3000 - Dismiss ZP Error      | Close the ZP Error message (if visible).
 5000 - Set Current Position  | Sets the Current Play Position (in seconds)
 5010 - Play DVD Title,Chapter| Plays a DVD Title (depends on DVD Navigation
                                accepting the title).
 5020 - Play DVD Title,Chapter| Same as 5010, Plays a DVD Title at a specific
                                chapter, value of "1,5" plays Title #1,
                                Chapter #5 (without the "" of course).
 5030 - Play DVD Chapter      | Same as 5010, Plays a DVD Chapter in the
                                current Title.
 5100 - Call ZP Function      | Calls a Zoom Player function
                                by name (see skinning tutorial for list)
 5110 - Call ZP ExFunction    | Calls a Zoom Player extended function
                                by name (see skinning tutorial for list)
 5120 - Call ZP ScanCode      | Pass a keyboard scancode number to the
                                Zoom Player Interperter (such as VK_DOWN),
                                this can be used to access the Navigator
                                interfaces, pass the scancode as a parameter.


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Posted 18 March 2005 - 02:43 AM

Thanx Blight

I just noticed that F10 seems to be broken

* New Function (Alt+Ctrl+"D") that pops an OSD with the current
  date and time.

Not working in DVD Mode

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 03:04 AM

Thanks, Blight, and sure "A lot of people have been awaiting this beta".

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 04:24 AM

Hi Blight,

You need at least version "10.00.00.3802" installed


I guess, it is about time for me to get rid of W98 because Windows Media Player 10 does not support W98.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 06:03 AM

suzi:
The whole Win32 series of operating systems, all the way from Windows 95, culminating in WinME are horrific. I moved on the moment a windows operating system with PnP and real multi-tasking was released.

SicteR:
If you use a custom keyboard files, new default keymaps won't work for you (unless you add them yourself). And F10 works just fine (same key issue).

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 07:27 AM

Thanks Blight :)

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 07:58 AM

SicteR:
If you use a custom keyboard files, new default keymaps won't work for you (unless you add them yourself). And F10 works just fine (same key issue).

My bad :)

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 09:29 AM

Hey, Blight,

Impressive job... I will try it all very soon...

I asked you for more TCP informations about DVD Chapters and Audio Tracks count... the job seems to be great

But, is it possible also to retrieve a list of all available audio tracks ????
If so, how could I do it ?

Thank you for that great job

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 10:01 AM

Hi Blight,

first, thanks a lot for integrating all those new features and for fixing bugs AND FOR RELEASING THIS BETA FINALLY ! :)

Here are my first "bugs" or missing features or whatever you want to call it. Some of them are already in beta 2 but I did not really bother to ask before, sorry for being lazy ... :D

1. New in beta 3:



New Value (Advanced Options / DVD / DVD Tools) allowing you to
  automatically execute an external application/script when a
  PAL disc is identified.

* New Value (Advanced Options / DVD / DVD Tools) allowing you to
  automatically execute an external application/script when an
  NTSC disc is identified.

* New Value (Advanced Options / DVD / DVD Tools) allowing you to
  automatically execute an external application/script when a
  DVD is stopped.


GREAT ! BUT:

ZP does not remember the settings (if you close ZP and open it again, the entry in those fields is empty again even if you saved the settings before)

AND ... the "browse button" does nothing ...

2.

New Customized Media Profile for ".ms-dvr" files.  For it to work,
  you must download the MS-DVR patch from the Microsoft Windows Update
  web site.


Which patch is that ? I looked on Windows Update but there was no MS-DVR Patch. The only thing remotely related to Windows Media was the Windows Media Connect setup. I have the latest WMP10 installed, maybe then I do not need that extra patch?

3.

The following are missing customized media profiles or other profiles related things. Those were missing in beta 2 already, obviously:

Source:
Still Image: _Image Source ... why is it reported unregistered ?? Do I need an extra file for that ?

Audio:
DTS and DTS in container ... ffdshow profile is missing ... it can decoder DTS as far as I know ...

PCM Audio: NullFilter .. why is reported unregistered ?

4.

I hope you did not forget my feature request I asked you months ago about saving customized media mode settings (which decoder/profile is being used for a given format) in the registry together with all the other ZP settings ? It would really make a reinstallation simpler, especially as the amount of profiles are increasing and increasing ... :bow:

5.

I know you don´t have DX exclusive mode implemented yet .... but could you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider to implement the following when you do:

Could you add an option to automatically switch to any other VMR9 mode if ZP loses focus and switch back to DX exclusive if focus is back on the application ?

I guess you know why this would be terribly important for dual monitor users ... but I can elaborate on this if you don´t ... <_<

Thanks and thanks again for this wonderful program !

Bye,
Alex

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 11:01 AM

How come there are no zip versions of new Zoom Player to download? :)

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 02:42 PM

Hi Blight,

serious problem with renderless mode .... unfortunately ... :)

On monitor 1, everything is ok, but if I move the ZP window to monitor 2, CPU consumption will jump to between 70 and 100%, the whole system will get extremely sluggish (mouse cursor jumps etc. ) and the video will of course tear and drop frames like crazy. Moving the window back to monitor 1 immediately cures that.

The same thing happens if I open the video directly on monitor 2, either fullscreen or windowed.

I tried with NVIDIA version 66.93 and the new 71.84, default settings except vsync is on.

Windowless mode works fine as before. Just tried with an XVID using ffdshow as a decoder (latest version 03-03-2005 SSE2). I will try with other files soon.

Bye,
Alex

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 02:57 PM

Blight,
About WMP 10... Windows 2000 doesn't support WMP 10 and I think this OS is not bad... :) So that means I can't use Zoom Player 4.10 beta3 ? <_<

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 03:09 PM

Hi Blight,

well, the renderless issue I posted above happens with all kinds of files, MPEG2, xvid, DVD, wmv etc.

Renderless mode on monitor 2 is a definite nogo currently, at least on my Geforce 5700.
Is this something you can fix easily ?

Thanks,
Alex

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 06:22 PM

i would like to clarify that vmr9 in fullscreen, i am experiencing problems with matroska and ogg files. using gabest's latest matroska splitter (2-09-05) and the oggds 0995. it raises the cpu usage to 100%, however playback of avi's full screen is fine. i am not dropping any frames, however the system is quite tied up. this works on either monitor 1 or monitor 2, windowed and windowless rendering. any way i can help troubleshoot or test this out, let me know as i really would like it to work.
dave

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 12:57 AM

I saw there is an option to have an OSD popup with the time. Is there any way to have an OSD with a custom text string that could be passed via the TCP port or a windows message?

My idea is this. I use ZP to play all of my media with the Meedio frontend. In meedio I have a lot of information about the currently playing file (title, movie info, actors, etc). I have access to all of this data through girder. I'm imaginging I could popup an OSD that could cycle through all of this info when I hit a button.

I could make the OSD in Girder, but it would be a bit more seamless if ZP could display the info for me.

Is this possible now? Or could it be implemented if not :)

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 02:57 AM

So let me get this straight, Zoom Player is now XP only? :)

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 06:54 AM

midiboy:
The patch also comes in XP SP2 I think, you probably already have it.
You're right about those settings not saving, doh, fixed.

"_Image Source" is the DCoder image source which supports quite a lot more featuers than the windows image source filter (which will also report as unregistered as it doesn't have the usual filter profile, don't ask me why).

With regards to PCM Audio, null filter means no filter (as none is required, it's just a way to tell ZP to connect it directly to the renderer and don't use any filter).

I'll add ffdshow to the DTS profiles.

I didn't forget the profiles/registry thing, it's just not a simple thing to do. Not as simple as you may think.

regarding exclusive mode... there is a HUGE problem switching renderers while a video is loaded, I'm talking serious instability, that's one of the reasons for the delay.


Hatch:
Sorry, and there won't be in the future, this is due to a licensing issue, beyond my control.


namchik:
of course you can, you may not be able to play certain DRMed WMV content, but otherwise, everything will be the same.


midiboy:
I'm not sure, talking with my developer, he says Direct3D multi-monitor isn't really all that straight forward. Although, If the image does show, I have no idea why it would take such a massive CPU hit.


Gnerma:
Why would you say that? If anything, this build may even work with NT4 again (can anyone test that?).


Hesse:
You can already show an OSD message using the 1200 code.
1200 - Show a PopUp OSD Text | Parameter is a UTF8 encoded text to be
                                shown as a PopUp OSD


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Posted 19 March 2005 - 07:02 AM

Why would you say that?  If anything, this build may even work with NT4 again (can anyone test that?).


Well I was referring to the fact that WMP10 does not seem to be available for anything but XP..

I guess, it is about time for me to get rid of W98 because Windows Media Player 10 does not support W98.

About WMP 10... Windows 2000 doesn't support WMP 10 and I think this OS is not bad...  So that means I can't use Zoom Player 4.10 beta3?


But I think I understand now (correct me if I'm wrong here). You only need WMP10 for full functionality of the latest revision's of MS' proprietary formats. So if you want to use them, you're limited to XP regardless of what player you use.

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 07:19 AM

ZP tries to be as backward compatible as possible. I think every Win OS is supported sans Win95 (which doesn't support SSE) and maybe NT4 (it may work in this new beta, I made some changes to try supporting it).

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 09:24 AM

Hi Blight,

thanks for your answers.

I'm not sure, talking with my developer, he says Direct3D multi-monitor isn't really all that straight forward. Although, If the image does show, I have no idea why it would take such a massive CPU hit.


You cannot recreate this ? Can anyone ? Well, I cannot say much else except I use a P4 HT active, GF5700 dual DVI, Asus P4P800 board and it happens everytime here.

I didn't forget the profiles/registry thing, it's just not a simple thing to do. Not as simple as you may think.


Thanks for trying ! :kudo:

regarding exclusive mode... there is a HUGE problem switching renderers while a video is loaded, I'm talking serious instability, that's one of the reasons for the delay.


oh my ... :blush: